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Thanks for sharing, Marcus.

"I think this work matters. I also think it’s incomplete, and probably wrong in some ways we haven’t identified yet. But I’d rather be transparent about a serious attempt than quietly confident about something that doesn’t hold up to scrutiny."

I like this spirit. I wonder whether you accounted for effects on soil animals (https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/soil-animals). One of the "key takeaways" from Rethink Priorities' (RP's) work on risk aversion was that "Spending on corporate cage-free campaigns for egg-laying hens is robustly[8] cost-effective under nearly all reasonable types and levels of risk aversion considered here". However, I think such campaigns can easily increase or decrease animal welfare accounting for effects on soil ants and termites (https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/BnDQRikxE6hbJ3GRB/chicken-welfare-reforms-may-impact-soil-ants-and-termites). So I suspect they perform worse than inaction under moderate levels of any type of risk aversion you considered (“avoiding the worst” risk aversion, difference-making risk aversion, and ambiguity aversion).

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